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Charles-Valentin Alkan
Grande Sonate Op 33, Sonatine
Marc-Andre Hamelin - piano
Hyperion
Utterly fabulous.
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Now listening to:
Uff-da!
Hearing these on period instruments gives them new life. They're much more substantial, not the frilly things you hear on television commercials. Modern interpretations of these pieces often leaves them sounding almost romantic-period! The historical-treatment makes them sound almost medieval in parts. Excellent. |
I dont know this CD, but what you say is very interesting.
Do you know Christopher Hogwood's interpretation of Op. 8?
I would say the same (except for the "medioeval" nuances!) about it.
I'm going to listen to the samples ...
some minutes ago I was listening to the samples from Handel's Salve Regina posted in a thread of this forum: extraordinary!
I will close with
- Handel: Dettingen Te deum - Coro della Radio Svizzera / Ensemble Vanitas / cond: Diego Fasolis
- Charpentier: Salve Regina for three Choirs and Orchestra - Chorus and Symph. Orch. of the Gulbekian Foundation / cond. Michel Corboz (very good, but rather "modernized" interpretation
of an absolute masterwork)
- Charpentier: Salve Regina H. 27 Concerto Vocale / René Jacobs
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I dont know this CD, but what you say is very interesting.
Do you know Christopher Hogwood's interpretation of Op. 8?
I would say the same (except for the "medioeval" nuances!) about it.
I'm going to listen to the samples ... |
I got that album in particular because Hugget is a very reputable period violinist and, well, it was the cheapest used.  Was looking for a period performance of these works. I'm sure Hogwood does well enough, though I've found his approach to be too stiff for my liking on several occasions. And some of these concerti reminded me of medieval band music, in parts... Odd...  Anyhow, I thought Huggett did well.
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I'm sure Hogwood does well enough, though I've found his approach to be too stiff for my liking on several occasions. And some of these concerti reminded me of medieval band music, in parts... Odd... Anyhow, I thought Huggett did well. |
I had the Hogwood edition in LP, time ago, and now I cannot listen at it, but i remember it was not stiff at all. For instance it's very imaginative in the ornamentation of the refrains and of the doubles, wery rich in the sound (with theorbo, baroque guitar and so on).
I understand what you say about the limits and the stiffness of some of Hogwoood's interpretations: his recording of the Brandeburg Concertos let me a bit disappointed. But his Vivaldi is better.
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| Brine wrote: |
I had the Hogwood edition in LP, time ago, and now I cannot listen at it, but i remember it was not stiff at all. For instance it's very imaginative in the ornamentation of the refrains and of the doubles, wery rich in the sound (with theorbo, baroque guitar and so on).
I understand what you say about the limits and the stiffness of some of Hogwoood's interpretations: his recording of the Brandeburg Concertos let me a bit disappointed. But his Vivaldi is better. |
His Beethoven symphonies and Mozart wind concerti are like that too, rather dull and academic. I can't really pass a judgement on his legendary Mozart symphony cycle, but from what I've heard of that it sounds much the same. He's done well with Handel though, and I'm glad you liked his Vivaldi; after all, the purpose of recordings is to enjoy them, not dissect them!
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For this morning. The cello imitates my awakening muscles. Thats right. My muscles are filled with resonance! 
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| Thats right. My muscles are filled with resonance! |
Have you been to the doctor about it M10?  Today resonating muscles- tomorrow vibrating innards!
Are you happy with that purchase now you've had time to dip in?
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Yes, please give this a visit and add some comments!
Now listening to:
This album's page at Amazon.com
Contains Haydn's 26th, 52nd, and 53rd Symphonies, as well as his Violin Concerti and Sinfonia Concertante, all on period instruments.
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Luigi Boccherini
Stabat Mater
Daniela Longhi: soprano
Quartetto Amati
(Juan Carlos Rybin / Alberto Martini: violini
Enrico Balboni: viola
Zoltan Szabo: violoncello
Claudio Bartolomai: contabbasso)
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Contains Haydn's 26th, 52nd, and 53rd Symphonies, as well as his Violin Concerti and Sinfonia Concertante, all on period instruments. |
Hi Sorin!
Kujiken's Petite Bande and The Age of Enlighment
It must be a good recording!
If I find it in one of my usual on-line stores, I will put it in my whishlist.
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Luigi Boccherini
Stabat Mater
Daniela Longhi: soprano
Quartetto Amati
(Juan Carlos Rybin / Alberto Martini: violini
Enrico Balboni: viola
Zoltan Szabo: violoncello
Claudio Bartolomai: contabbasso)
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How is this? I really enjoy his chamber music (check out the Chamber music topic to get some samples), but wasn't aware of any sacred music that he'd written.
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How is this? I really enjoy his chamber music (check out the Chamber music topic to get some samples), but wasn't aware of any sacred music that he'd written. |
It's a masterwork. Great.
About this particular (good) recording, I have seen that is not not common in on-line stores, and probably is little known out of Italy.
Here is the download page from a French site
[url=http://www.starzik.com/mp3/artistes/Atlantic_Release_Promo_(Hidden_Track)-132204.html]Link[/url]
In Amazon.com I have found this:
a double CD full of interesting stuff (along with the Stabat Mater, there is also the d-minor Symphony "La casa del diavolo" = The Devil's House: rococo Paradise and Hell together  ):
Link
There is also another double CD with I Solisti Veneti, conducted by Claudio Scimone and the soprano Cecilia Gasdia:
See details here
Go to the YouTube section: in one of the last posts I have put the video of the I movement (Stabat Mater Dolorosa) from another recording.
To day or later i want to open a topic about this work and unpload one or two short mp3s.
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| smileyman wrote: |
| How is this? I really enjoy his chamber music (check out the Chamber music topic to get some samples), but wasn't aware of any sacred music that he'd written. |
List of Compositions by Luigi Boccherini
Look at all those lost compositions... 
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| smileyman wrote: |
How is this? I really enjoy his chamber music (check out the Chamber music topic to get some samples), but wasn't aware of any sacred music that he'd written. |
It's a masterwork. Great.
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Right after I asked the question I saw the YouTube clip. I loved it, and will probably pick it up (at least it's added to my huge list of stuff to buy should I ever win the lottery).
Right now listening to "On the Way to Bethlehem (Music of the Medieval Pilgrim)"
Amazon Link
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Boccherini again:
Quintets for guitar and strings:
no. 2 in e maj
no. 7 in e min
op. 30, no. 6 in c maj "La ritirata di Madrid"
no. 4 in d maj "Fandango" (obviously the last mov., the fandango, is in d min!)
Pepe Romero guitar
Marina Sirbiu / Cristina Dancila violin
Massimo Paris alto
Mihai Dancila cello
I have not found this record (music for UNICEF) on sale on the web
By way of compensation, you can listen to the Fandango from the website of the Stradivari Quartet
here is the LINK:
Homepage Quartetto Stradivari
enter - listenings
there's also a track from Haydn's "Sunrise" quartet
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Now, from YouTube: Scott Ross plays the Fandango of padre Antonio Soler
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| Sorin Eushayson wrote: |
Contains Haydn's 26th, 52nd, and 53rd Symphonies, as well as his Violin Concerti and Sinfonia Concertante, all on period instruments. |
Hi Sorin!
Kujiken's Petite Bande and The Age of Enlighment
It must be a good recording!
If I find it in one of my usual on-line stores, I will put it in my whishlist. |
I've given this a good listen-to, and it is indeed a good recording. Some consider La Petite Bande's Haydn symphonies to be 'definitive,' though I'm not sure I'd go that far. They have a good romp with them, I'll say that much. The Violin Concerti and Sinfonia Concertante are why I bought it though and they certainly didn't disappoint; hearing the former on period-instruments makes them seem much more substantial, and the latter was a true joy. The album is pretty cheap, so it's definitely worth the price.
Here it is again:
This album's page at Amazon.com
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| Right now listening to "On the Way to Bethlehem (Music of the Medieval Pilgrim)" |
That's a disc that I listen to from time to time when I'm in the mood for something older. It really is good stuff! 
This week I've been on a bit of an Alkan odyssey...
Charles-Valentin Alkan
Concerto for solo piano
Marc-Andre Hamelin
Hyperion
Alkan charts a course for the furthest horizons of the piano and Hamelin takes us there in great style. A must have!
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