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 Post subject: Beethoven's "doomed son"
PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:26 pm 
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More nonsense related to the "Immortal beloved" saga, but as l heard the theory also getting radio airtime l thought I should bring it to the forum's attention. If l had a penny for every quack music historian out there (and I include Maynard Solomon in that company) I'd be a rich man...

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/ ... rkest-work

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 Post subject: Re: Beethoven's "doomed son"
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As history is one of my hobbies, discovered a lot of it is "might have been" and "could have been"! Applies to music history as well, therefore that's what I think to this latest idea!


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Judith wrote:
As history is one of my hobbies, discovered a lot of it is "might have been" and "could have been"! Applies to music history as well, therefore that's what I think to this latest idea!

Well in this case it is not history, it is pure fantasy. The whole IB charade as propagated by Solomon can be easily ripped apart under scrutiny, and the latest addition to the tale is laughable. Alas the media and the music business are rarely concerned about facts and are quite prepared to report such disinformation without question. Just more fake news I'm afraid...

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 Post subject: Re: Beethoven's "doomed son"
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I recently made it through Swafford's massive "Beethoven: Anguish and Triumph." There is no mention of any of this. It seems to me Beethoven had enough other sorrow to inspire late masterpieces without there being a lost child involved. I do love the Immortal Beloved film as a work of fiction however.


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I recently made it through Swafford's massive "Beethoven: Anguish and Triumph." There is no mention of any of this. It seems to me Beethoven had enough other sorrow to inspire late masterpieces without there being a lost child involved. I do love the Immortal Beloved film as a work of fiction however.

The circumstances surrounding the origins of the music concerned are all well known and there is no mystery to any of it. Of course that doesn't stop second rate hacks reporting this junk seemingly without question (ClassicFM too but that shouldn't surprise us).

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