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How about the salmoe? It's an early reed instrument used in some baroque composition. It was brought to my attention by its presence in one of the Vivaldi concerti I recently purchased. Supposedly Telemann wrote some concerti for it as well. The only thing I could find on it was this translated Italian Wikipedia page.
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Sorin Eushayson wrote:
How about the salmoe? It's an early reed instrument used in some baroque composition. It was brought to my attention by its presence in one of the Vivaldi concerti I recently purchased. Supposedly Telemann wrote some concerti for it as well. The only thing I could find on it was this translated Italian Wikipedia page.
Must be a rare instrument indeed, I can't find any other reference to it anywhere online, other than as an inclusion on a CD.
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Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:34 am Posts: 3967 Location: Idaho Falls, ID
Rod Corkin wrote:
Sorin Eushayson wrote:
How about the salmoe? It's an early reed instrument used in some baroque composition. It was brought to my attention by its presence in one of the Vivaldi concerti I recently purchased. Supposedly Telemann wrote some concerti for it as well. The only thing I could find on it was this translated Italian Wikipedia page.
Must be a rare instrument indeed, I can't find any other reference to it anywhere online, other than as an inclusion on a CD.
Mystery solved! According to Google Books (Link Here), a salmoe refers either to a Chalumeau (a reed instrument--basically an oboe), or a flautino (either a piccolo or a flute, or sometimes a recorder).
Chalumeau
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Mystery solved! According to Google Books (Link Here), a salmoe refers either to a Chalumeau (a reed instrument--basically an oboe), or a flautino (either a piccolo or a flute, or sometimes a recorder).
Smileyman,
are you sure of the similarity with the oboe?
the image that you have posted shows a single-reed instrument, a sort of clarinet, not a double-reed one.
I ever heard of the salmoé (Chalumeau) as a sort of clarinet.
About the flautino you are right: it was either a piccolo or a flute, or sometimes a recorder; but it did'nt substitute the salmoé (it has a different extension); the fact is that Vivaldi wrote a few concerts (or other compositions) for each one of these two very different, but equally unusual, instruments.
other compositions: if I'm not mistaken, the salmoé is required for the aria "Veni me sequere fida" in Juditha triumphans.
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Brine wrote:
Smileyman, are you sure of the similarity with the oboe?
the image that you have posted shows a single-reed instrument, a sort of clarinet, not a double-reed one. I ever heard of the salmoé (Chalumeau) as a sort of clarinet.
I'm only guessing here, simply because all the (admittedly very brief) research I did seemed to tie the salmoe to oboeists. I'm not an expert though, or even a very knowledgeable amateur. (I was a brass man myself)
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That's very impressive. I'm assuming that the salmoe players are the ones in the back. I did get a kick out of the one in the t-shirt who seemed to be trying to fly every time he played the instrument.
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Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:34 am Posts: 3967 Location: Idaho Falls, ID
Brine wrote:
smileyman wrote:
I'm not an expert though, or even a very knowledgeable amateur. (I was a brass man myself)
I am more familiar with reed-instruments: I was a (very bad) clarinetist!
I we find on the forum some bassoon, oboe, flute (etc.) player ... we can found a virtual wind ensemble!
Greetings.
Well I hope you weren't as obnoxious a clarinetist as Squidward is!
I know we had a bassoon player who posted a bit and then disappeared. I played trombone, but I can't recall if there are any other brass players in the forum.
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