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rich23434565 wrote:
Ew. I jumped straight to the thrilling final chorus, in Beethoven's best tub-thumping manner. The rest of it would've sent me to sleep. Really, it's an opera I cannot bear to listen to. It's one really boring scene after another. I'll stick with Leonore III.
You said tub thumping. Hehehe.
RodCorkin wrote:
The opening of the finale is performed a little sedately here (with a theme borrowed from Luchesi apparently), but considering all you have heard is Klemperer's performance, of which the whole of the opera is performed at half the required tempo or even slower, I'm afraid to are not qualified to comment on this music. The whole opera should is full of 'tub thumping' moments performed correctly. But the last four minutes of Fidelio says more than the whole of Don Giovanni put together, so either way you are a winner with this youtube.
I happened to enjoy both pieces. The Beethoven is definitely more dramatic, but that's Beethoven for you. If you're complaining about the slowness you should definitely check out other conductors. I'm not familiar with the opera, but Klemperer is famous (infamous?) for his "grand, stately" approach to conducting. Nearly everything he conducts is slower than his contemporaries.
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Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:24 am Posts: 13232 Location: London, England
smileyman wrote:
I happened to enjoy both pieces. The Beethoven is definitely more dramatic, but that's Beethoven for you. If you're complaining about the slowness you should definitely check out other conductors. I'm not familiar with the opera, but Klemperer is famous (infamous?) for his "grand, stately" approach to conducting. Nearly everything he conducts is slower than his contemporaries.
The music critics regard Klemperer's recording of Fidelio as the best. The reality is that it is the worst, and this is not simply my opinion, it is a simple fact.
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Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:24 am Posts: 13232 Location: London, England
smileyman wrote:
I happened to enjoy both pieces. The Beethoven is definitely more dramatic, but that's Beethoven for you. If you're complaining about the slowness you should definitely check out other conductors. I'm not familiar with the opera, but Klemperer is famous (infamous?) for his "grand, stately" approach to conducting. Nearly everything he conducts is slower than his contemporaries.
Just the opening section of the Youtube I was referring to as being performed a little too sedately, the final chorus 'Wer ein holdes Weib errungen' is dispatched at a blistering pace.
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Very nice indeed. The man almost convinces me that opera is a viable music form. (To be honest, the one and only opera I own is Don Giovanni, so I guess I'm at least partially convinced of the importance of this opera.)
Well if you're going to have one opera then Don Giovanni is a good choice!
Here's another good choice! The greatest finale from the greatest opera for you...
I really can't bear watching Thomas Hampson. He's one of the most obnoxious singers, aiming for the title of "the most".
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Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:24 am Posts: 13232 Location: London, England
The whole of beethoven's Piano Concerto No4 performed by Paul Badura-Skoda using his 1824 Graf piano. The performance is cut across 5 youtube 'parts', the others are accessible via 'link'. I have the original recording this is pulled from on CD, though from the occasion clicks I can hear in the Youtube this sounds like is from the vinyl original.
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Knowing the tastes of most members I expect most people here to hate this but the minority has their rights also , so here's the fab Jussi Bjorling ( ) and Renata Tebaldi ( ) in the famous act one scene from Puccini's "La Boheme."
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:24 am Posts: 13232 Location: London, England
jhar26 wrote:
Knowing the tastes of most members I expect most people here to hate this but the minority has their rights also , so here's the fab Jussi Bjorling ( ) and Renata Tebaldi ( ) in the famous act one scene from Puccini's "La Boheme."
Knowing the tastes of most members I expect most people here to hate this but the minority has their rights also , so here's the fab Jussi Bjorling ( ) and Renata Tebaldi ( ) in the famous act one scene from Puccini's "La Boheme."
Joined: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:22 am Posts: 562 Location: Cambridge, MA
My god, so many amazing things. I just had to buy "Yet can i hear that dulcet lay" on itunes. and that semi-staged scene from Don Giovanni...amazingly powerful. that really shows you just how powerful opera can be. the finale from fidelio is of course amazing too. and horowitz...gosh.
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(To be honest, the one and only opera I own is Don Giovanni, so I guess I'm at least partially convinced of the importance of this opera.)
) in the famous act one scene from Puccini's "La Boheme."
